Comments on: Fire Emblem Three Houses – Chapter 18 (Crimson Flower) http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112 同人音楽翻訳家 Doujin Music Translator Tue, 09 Mar 2021 07:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Hello http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-495 Tue, 09 Mar 2021 07:36:32 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-495 In reply to nanashisan.

Wait, so, speaking strictly in-text, no word “authoritatian” was used in the japanese text?

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By: anon http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-488 Fri, 22 Jan 2021 19:46:54 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-488 In reply to nanashisan.

You’re acting like I’m not a translator myself lmfao. But please, do go on about how I need you to spell out the “authentic story of fuukasetsugetsu” (lol) for me, especially when you’re just getting your definition off of jisho, instead of confirming things with actual Japanese dictionaries and encyclopedias. You’re also acting like translators don’t make mistakes, and if that were the case, none of us would be here at all. So sure, call that “censorship” when quite frankly, it’s apparent that you have a biased interpretation of things that are affecting your own translations because of your digital boyfriend or whatever.

Extreme centralization, which is what leads to authoritarianism, isn’t stated in the original text at all. That’s something you’re bringing in yourself, which you just admitted since you said “the official definition of the word” is the first result when you google search it – which is that Japanese Wikipedia article I mentioned earlier, the one that has “centralisation” written in plain English in the first sentence.

And by the way, you’re also ignoring the fact that centralization is a response to ending feudalism, which is what we have in 3 Houses since the noble landholders are called 領主. The 3 lords can also be considered equivalent to daimyos because the Book of Seiros, Part I in the library uses the phrase 王を封ず. This is what happened with the Meiji Restoration, where the Tokugawa shogunate, the feudal Japanese government, was toppled in favor of the monarchy set forth by the Meiji Constitution, centered around the Emperor with an elected Diet. Obviously it had issues, but if you think FE3H is uncritically romanticizing the Meiji era, you’re wrong. I’m going to have to ask you to open up a history book yourself if you want the full details, but a large part of Japan’s descent into fascism was the propagation of bushido moral education… Now, think about which nation in the game is obsessed with chivalry and has a culture to fight to the death for their king, to the point that they suicidally turn themselves into Demonic beasts. Not to mention Felix is a walking samurai trope.

Anyway I’m going to stop polluting this kagiyama’s poor comment section with this, since it was an honest mistake/unintentional. Hope you get well soon!

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By: nanashisan http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-487 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 19:45:34 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-487 In reply to taylor.

looking over my first comment, i commented in bad faith based on hearsay, and that was wrong for me to do. i would like to apologise for that, and for making fans of edelgard feel like they’d done something wrong.

i believe i’ve seen the same comment, it was pretty funny. the old alliance system was a roundtable, so that’s a pretty drastic change, wouldn’t you say? i think what matters most is that she’s consistently shown as wanting all the power for herself (she states as much, several times) and she does that in her ending. there’s more to her actions taken throughout all four of the routes than just consolidating all the power that all subtly reinforce this idea (so i wouldn’t say it comes out of the blue to me personally), but i’m not sure if op wants us to devolve into that discussion here, so i’ll just leave it at a difference in opinion or taste? we can agree to disagree, no problem.

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By: taylor http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-486 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 05:20:29 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-486 In reply to nanashisan.

it was op’s own decision to remove that statement about edelgard’s authoritarian government, and even provided an explanation as to why they did. you act as if op was genuinely being bullied by edelgard stans into removing the statement, when all i’ve seen is one person disagreeing and asking what authoritarian meant in context.

as someone who doesn’t particularly like edelgard, and is also a translator, i think the removal of the statement is actually appropriate.

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By: nanashisan http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-485 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:43:14 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-485 In reply to nanashisan.

also, because i really am not liking the idea of you coming for me again simply for stating a translator doesn’t have to censor themself to keep others from being upset:

yes, the meiji era was centralised. centralisation alone is not the problem: it is the extreme centralisation of authority (power) that is, which is what edelgard does.

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By: nanashisan http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-484 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:14:10 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-484 In reply to anon.

if you google 中央集権制, the first result is the wikipedia page for the official definition of the word. i’m assuming it mentions the meiji restoration period because the meiji restoration happened after the edo period, which was a centralised military dictatorship. but do go on.

without us, you would have never been able to read the authentic story of fuukasetsugetsu, so you ought to be less vile the next time you address us about our capabilities.

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By: nanashisan http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-483 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:13:07 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-483 In reply to joe.

are you referring to me when you speak of “edelgard derangement syndrome”? i have no idea what you are talking about. furthermore, if you google 中央集権制, the first result is the wikipedia page for the official definition of the word. i’m assuming it mentions the meiji restoration period because the meiji restoration happened after the edo period, which was a centralised military dictatorship. but do go on.

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By: nanashisan http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-482 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:05:57 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-482 In reply to nanashisan.

i realised i was not clear with my explanation. but 中央集権 means “centralised authoritarian rule” and 制 means “system”.

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By: nanashisan http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-481 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:04:48 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-481 In reply to Guest.

it is both. it is authoritarian because edelgard centralises all the power onto herself

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By: joe http://kagiyama.threebards.com/fire-emblem/2112#comment-480 Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:59:12 +0000 http://kagiyama.threebards.com/?p=2112#comment-480 In reply to anon.

What an lying prick

@anon
Don’t judge him/her/xer too harshly, he/she/xer probably suffers from Edelgard Derangement Syndrome

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